In this in-depth conversation, Roy Azoulay, Co-founder and CIO of Cynomi, and Phil Bindley, Field CISO at Intercity Technology, explore how MSPs and MSSPs can turn regulatory compliance, AI governance, and cyber risk management into scalable, revenue-generating services. They discuss NIS2 expansion, Cyber Essentials, supply chain pressure, and why AI governance is fast becoming a board-level priority.